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    14:35, June 7, 2017

    As many of you are aware, console users got Outlast 2 a bit early thanks to pre-orders & have been streaming the game on Twitch today. We will update the wiki sometime after with newer information & we'd like to setup a thread for the ones who'd like to discuss it.

    Feel free to share your thoughts, criticisms & moments below. Please, keep spoiler-related discussions within this thread, at least until the game receives a global release.

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    • As extreme as it may sound, perhaps pages related to Outlast 2 alone should be locked for edition as well? At least until the official release this Tuesday.

      Btw, I suppose the pre-orders in question were for the Trinity collection?

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    • Well, it's technically out, & yes, only for Trinity (physical copy). I'll temporarily lock them.

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    • Out yes but not officially. Steam locks a game until its release date, even if you get a physical copy earlier (which happens a lot). I guess that's not the case on consoles, which is a shame since the developers probably did not want to do pre-orders for that specific reason. /:

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    • I know what you mean, would have preferred if they waited for its initial release like before.

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    • Well that would be like pissing in a violin. Anyway thanks for locking the pages. :)

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    • No clue what that means tho.

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    • My mistake, that's a French expression. That means doing something useless.

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    • You mean there'd no point in pre-orders then?

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    • I meant there's no point in asking streamers to wait for a game's official release before streaming it. They're doing it for the views, and unless the developers contacted Twitch to avoid it they have zero obligation to them.

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    • No, I meant to hold off on releasing it until April 25 rather than having a pre-order.

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    • Ah I see. Well, I don't think Red Barrels has much control on the distribution of Trinity though since it's published by another company, Warner Home Video.

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    • Yea, kind of the point, especially since the regular game will be downloadable as well.

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    • Well I have seen some crucial parts. For an instance Jane Doe is the one who tells God doesn't love you non like I do. Then Lynn giving birth, and Sullivan killing himself after saying Godhas gone silent after the storm. I know God don't hear dead men, but he will hear this one and cuts his throat. Then Blake escapes with the child and the sun explodes ending the game.

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    • And Jane Doe's father name is Ethan, And jane Doe's name is possibly Anna Lee (The notes are German). And in that note about the Doe there was a mentioning of a man named Paul.

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    • What about Miles and Waylon?

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    • They don't appear. IDK if they're ever mentioned. Marta dies a stupid death, she tries to do the killing animation & take your nuts, but the axe's weight overwhelms her & she impales herself. Murkoff is nowhere to be seen. Lynn dies after giving birth, how she went through full pregnancy in a few hours & how she got pregnant is newer explained. I assume it's not all clear from the start & the player might have missed some crucial details.

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    • How do you rate Outlast 2,guys?

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    • NewGenTV
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    • omg. it`s so complicated. i watched twice and still don`t understand many things. in the first game science explained it all, but how Lynn`s pregnancy can be explaned here? Murkoff? but there was nothing about Murkoff, wasn`t it? as for the ending, can it just be another Blake`s halluсination?

      please, guys, write what do you think about the plot, because i fell myself SO stupid now...

      by the way, i really liked the part with the river. can`t wait to play)

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    • Well, it's not hardcore fantasy, though what caused his delusions is unclear at the moment. However, we can assume what triggered his episodes affected the cult members, hence their idea of god-like presence.

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    • Well the pregnancy might be psychosomatic though she gave birth to actual baby. The "flashback" in the school also might be the work of Murkoff. If ya remember they wanted their patients to be disingaged from reality though saying patient in this context for Blake is not right. I think while Blake hikes through the village that white storm is some form of shockwave that affects the mind anwhile the player is in the village he sees it as the school

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    • One thing I realized is that deformed creature with multiple hands that haunts Blake at school is what Sullivan was referring to when he said "the spider-eyed lamb".

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    • Well he might also be Louter Milch dont forget. When the game comes out we will dig it out. If he is both Louter and Sullivan spider eyed lamb,than the two might know each other. Or Blake has witnessed Jess's molestation and since then imagined Louter as a spider eyed lamb. Well then dont forget that we have a 5th issue coming which will bridge the two games tigether and reveal (possibly) the sickness which was Simon talking about. Btw in the final title scene ya can see the Voice actor names among which is also Simon Peacock. Though he might be Voicing some other character. Btw the big guy which shares his body with the one who shoots arrows at us (also the one who crucifies Blake) their names are Laird and Nick. Though the one who talks is the little one who like other heretics has syphilis.

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    • I doubt they know each other, though the creature might as well be Blake's view of Louter when he was a child. I didn't pick up on those two heretics though. We'll see with the 5th issue.

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    • I have seen the part where Laird and Nick chase Blake through the forest and Nick shoits with fire arrows while Laird shines flashluht and spots Blake.

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    • Louter Milch photo File:Screenshot 2017-04-23-18-44-53.png (Delete when viewed Imma on my phone)

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    • Ye, I saw, wasn't as gruesome as I thought it'd be. Most of what I saw was at the beginning & end.

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    • Who's the swamp woman though?

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    • QTEs are also a thing again.

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    • Swanp woman?? The one who has got a crown on her??

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    • Yea, her.

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    • Its the Jane doe the one who tells god doesnt love you etc...

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    • She was reported to be dead.

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    • But when blake meets the short haired blonde in the first half Blake asked Ethan if its her daughter (I guess ya remeber that). From that we know that it's her. She presents herself as heretic saying fuck your god and process to kill one of the villagers. Then in the mine when its about to colapse she reveals her nude decaying body (IF she died then she was brought back either as Simon peacock was or by the deasease he was talking about (or it's the samw thing)) and says someylthing about Lynn's mother status. Then puts on her ctown and chaes us until the scene where she blows the dust and then follows the banned scene (slightly changed) then when she is about to assault us sexually the scene cuts to Jess in the same poaition above Blake but they were playing game.

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    • We don't know anything about the Jane Doe, all we know is that she supposedly died. How are these things in regards to the swamp woman linked to her?

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    • Because she is the short haired blonde. She tells Blake that she wants to see his tru face, then puts on the crown and the mine colapses then she chases Blake. And actually it's not swamp but rather the mine flooded.

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    • So Jane Doe name is Anne Lee .When she was fifteen Knoth impregnated her. But then he said that it's the antichrist. So Ethan had to slit her belly open and kill his grandchild. Here Watch from 9:50

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    • I think Outlast 2 was awesome! 10/10! And FYI, at least Marta wasn't killed by some ghost! If you really think about it, there was a huge storm. Maybe the winds made her lose her weight on the axe? And maybe there's a true ending unlockabke by collecting all the recordings and documents/notes.

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    • And who knows? Maybe the answer to "Where's Murkoff?" Has been right in front of us. We just don't know because the streamers don't wanna take their time to study and put the puzzle together they just wanna get the game over with.

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    • Alternative ending doesn't seem likely and sort of falls out of Red Barrels' conventional game pacing.

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    • GUYS I JUST RESLIZED SOMETHING! Maybe we're supposed to be confused. So we can be free to theorize.

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    • Again, probably not. We haven't exactly seen the entire game for ourselves, there are definitely things that are not fully explained, however, we still have the fifth issue of Murkoff Account to look forward to, which might help explain some of the more ambiguous events.

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    • there are a lot of that your goes through pregnancy in a couple of hours u start haveing flashbacks of highschool wierd demon orgy sun exploding 

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    • i forgot the does not make sence 

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    • Maybe time flies by after than we think. Maybe 9 months actually pass but it looks like a few hours. That or the baby was born premature.

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    • Blake414 wrote:
      Maybe time flies by after than we think. Maybe 9 months actually pass but it looks like a few hours. That or the baby was born premature.

      @NewGenTV Was it a fetus?

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    • At the end when Lynn gave birth? No.

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    • Araogo603 wrote:
      At the end when Lynn gave birth? No.

      Huh. Well, once I play the game for myself I'll find out. I've been spoiler-free thus far! (Except for the fucking ending)

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    • Again the purpose of the game is to confuse us. They are doing a hell of a good job doing so!

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    • We got new info regarding trophies. While we know that the game can be completed in 6-8hs, if you speedrun it it will take no less then 4 hours. If ya complete game in 4h, you will get Asahel trophy. 

      Trophies Val [1] [2] [3] [4]

      So Jane Doe is Anna Lee but Val is also short haired blonde. Maybe Val and Anna Lee are the same person. RB did good job confusing us.

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    • So... I have questions. What the hell was the ending of the game? And what the hell did Murkoff have to do with this?

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    • I think Lydia Degan is a Murkoff employee and it was murkoff who made the white god booms happen and made the sun look like it blew up (I hope it didn't.)

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    • So Jennifer Roland and Murkoff were using the town to make the mad people for their experiments at Mount Massive (or wherever they went after Outlast went down!)

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    • The game takes place in or before 2015 (but most likey the latter, and the document shows September 17, which likely means that the game takes place exactly two years after Outlast). The radio tower is part of a secret Murkoff brainwashing program. So the tower is basicly for Murkoff and the MKULTRA mind control program. That's why Blake "was teleported" into his school. He was dreaming/hallucinating. As he got closer to the radio tower and spend more time in the area he lost his mind more and more, get hallucinations and weird dreams of early childhood because the microwave brainwashing signal gets stronger. Blake blames himself for Jessica’s death because he didn’t love her, didn’t protect her when she needed him (she was fooling around with him but Blake liked Lynn. He also left her alone with the bad teacher who assaulted her, even though she asked him to stay because she was scared). In the end the microwave signal has gotten so strong that they all just murdered each other (brainwashing experiment, possibly gone wrong). The document speaks of anomalies in the signal strength and mentions that the signal is particularly strong at certain spots. There’s also a mention of the “feedback loop” which causes affected people to do crazy things.

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    • Here are shots of a tower on The Murkoff Report that were posted weeks ago  1st 2nd

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    • See guys? We just gotta dig a little deeper. The answers aren't just gonna be handed to us.

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    • What impaled Marta at the end wasn't her pickaxe. It was the cross from the nearby roof which was struck down by a lightning bolt.

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    • Murkoff just keep getting better and better it seems....... (freaking trolls)

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    • Guys. The baby wasn't real. Lynn said "There's nothing there." Before she died.

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    • Blake414 wrote: Guys. The baby wasn't real. Lynn said "There's nothing there." Before she died.

      How do you know???

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    • Blake414 wrote:
      Guys. The baby wasn't real. Lynn said "There's nothing there." Before she died.

      if so, why did Knoth see the child?


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    • The baby does not project any shadows when Blake first hold her. You see Blake's shadow as if he is holding something, but his hands are empty. As for why Knoth sees her, perhaps he sees the blanket but not the baby.

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    • I was able to decipher the list of Soundtracks Outlast 2

      1. the origins of mu(R)der victim jane doe
      2. hide you in (E)zekiel’s blood
      3. i am the chorus of screams!
      4. you don’t have to hi(D)e
      5. i thought we were all d(E)ad
      6. let’s step back into class, please
      7. unborn the prince of lies!
      8. god don’t hear dead (M)en
      9. god give me voice, god guide my hand
      10. momentous times are u(P)on us
      11. bring back our messiah!
      12. tha(T) lake (I)s wr(O)ng
      13. show me your true face
      14. you (N)ever let me go

      And the word came into - REDEMPTION. That possible will be DLC for Outlast 2 just like for first game.

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    • Pauolo wrote: The baby does not project any shadows when Blake first hold her. You see Blake's shadow as if he is holding something, but his hands are empty. As for why Knoth sees her, perhaps he sees the blanket but not the baby.

      I think the baby is invisible.....a ghostly Antichrist

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    • I agree with Pauolo. Sullivan could've only seen the blanket or was also hallucinating. And Murkoff triggers false pregnancies right? See one of the docs in the whistleblower DLC for the first Outlast game. It talks about the false pregnancies. As to why Blake sees the baby, Murkoff was also responsible for the white god booms. They have been testing how much sanity they can take away from people.

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    • Eddy XD wrote: I was able to decipher the list of Soundtracks Outlast 2

      This is what Samuel Laflamme left in OST's description, we've known about this for a while, it's unclear what it is.

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    • Pauolo wrote: What impaled Marta at the end wasn't her pickaxe. It was the cross from the nearby roof which was struck down by a lightning bolt.

      It WAS her axe. She dropped it and impaled herself when the cross hit her.

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    • HarryPotterRules1 wrote:

      Pauolo wrote: What impaled Marta at the end wasn't her pickaxe. It was the cross from the nearby roof which was struck down by a lightning bolt.

      It WAS her axe. She dropped it and impaled herself when the cross hit her.

      That's what I thought at first, but check again and you'll see she just drops her weapon behind her when the cross impales her. You can see it on this video further on when the player leaves (around 4:05): https://youtu.be/0sCyo60hX8E?t=236

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    • NewGenTV
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    • NewGenTV wrote:

      Eddy XD wrote: I was able to decipher the list of Soundtracks Outlast 2

      This is what Samuel Laflamme left in OST's description, we've known about this for a while, it's unclear what it is.

      Eh... I know the capital letters give a clue. So from what I deciphered, the word came out REDEMPTION. Maybe in other day this year will be DLC for Outlast 2 just like in previous game. Explain everything what has happened.

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    • So, the Murkoff Station. Should it get a page, and if so, what should it be called? I'd suggest something like Murkoff Station or Murkoff Tower, as simply calling it "The Station" or "The Tower" sounds a bit too basic.

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    • Am I the only one who thinks the "white booms" are atomic bomb tests by Murkoff? Think about it: kills birds and fish, blinds people, engulfs everything in white light that's directly near it, plus it's smack in the middle of the ideal test site for such things, a desert. 

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    • Sonicfan0001 wrote: Am I the only one who thinks the "white booms" are atomic bomb tests by Murkoff? Think about it: kills birds and fish, blinds people, engulfs everything in white light that's directly near it, plus it's smack in the middle of the ideal test site for such things, a desert. 

      It's more similar to the Morphogenic Engine, but more powerful and on a wider scale than at the asylum. There were clues in the documents of Whistleblower that both male and female employees got affected by it in similar ways, even without going anywhere near the underground lab.

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    • Sonicfan0001 wrote:
      Am I the only one who thinks the "white booms" are atomic bomb tests by Murkoff? Think about it: kills birds and fish, blinds people, engulfs everything in white light that's directly near it, plus it's smack in the middle of the ideal test site for such things, a desert. 

      I'm pretty sure thats the Radio Station emitting the radio waves (the brainwashing stuff)

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    • I think it's a mix of both, I mean, the ending of the game has what looks like the freaking sun exploding.

      Also, due to Murkoff's operations on Temple Gate, it gives me hope for a more original take on the insane cult trope that has been overused; Sullivan Knoth actually believes, or believed, everything sorrounding his cult, and was actually a decent guy, but when Murkoff found out about this little isolated cult of hillbillies out in the desert, someone proposed a certain experiment and it got approved.

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    • The sun exploding is just Blake hallucinating. The radio wave got sronger when he got closer. Each time he got.closer his hallucination got stronger and he constantly had more visions. Lynns pregnancy was psychosomatic and she had no child (this is evidenced by her saying "there is nothing here, it feels wrong" and the child having no shadow). Also read the 5th issue. It came out today.

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    • Now that I look back on what I originally said, that came out very poorly, so just ignore that. I know it isn't literally the sun exploding, that was just a comparison.

      Anyway, I'd be even more underwhelmed with the ending if the explosion isn't Murkoff deciding they were done with the place so they blew it up it. I mean, the experiment is essentially done considering everyone's dead, and we all know Murkoff doesn't like evidence tracing back to them. Consider Blake's last hallucination of Jessica the sweet part of a bittersweet ending.

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    • Maybe it's not done yet. Blake is the last test subject. He's still alive. Plus, a few heretics might've escaped.

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    • Some suggest the Murkoff towers exploded due to the freak electric storm or the somehow purposefully did it to cover everything up.

      Not saying I believe those theries but they're interesting. I think Blake's alive but is fully insane thanks to Murkoff's experiment.

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    • Teen Titans Forever! wrote:
      Some suggest the Murkoff towers exploded due to the freak electric storm or the somehow purposefully did it to cover everything up.

      Not saying I believe those theries but they're interesting. I think Blake's alive but is fully insane thanks to Murkoff's experiment.

      With your theories, I think we've reached a (debatable) conclusion.

      Blake is now Murkoff's new test subject, new mule, as those cultists were.

      It's his turn to rebuild the madness he's now filled to the brim with. The Scalled are still in these woods.

      And maybe, with his delusions, create something bigger.

      He's the new Billy Hope. The new WALRIDER.


      This story is far from over...

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    • Maybe the apocalypse was real. No one is assuming that, though is just another theory. Maybe the world really ended. It gives me goose bumps when I think about it.

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    • 99PercentEell wrote:
      Maybe the apocalypse was real. No one is assuming that, though is just another theory. Maybe the world really ended. It gives me goose bumps when I think about it.

      And here you're wrong! Most known, that Murkoff dabbed in his dirty fingers in all this - white boom caused by radio towers, by which the Temple Gate villagers were insane! These visions, which Blake experienced! And don't forget that this event is inspired by mass suicide in Jonestown!

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    • This game was very disappointing. Uninteresting characters, unfinished story, repetetive chase segments, too much outdoors and Jessica's story went NOWHERE. The only pros of this game are the graphics, atmosphere and great new features.

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    • AronRedfield wrote:
      This game was very disappointing. Uninteresting characters, unfinished story, repetetive chase segments, too much outdoors and Jessica's story went NOWHERE. The only pros of this game are the graphics, atmosphere and great new features.

      It actually has a finished story if you put all the pieces of the puzzle together. The Outlast games all the time have repetetive chase segments. Too much outdoors?! WTF (Too much water IGN). Jessica's story had an ending (you just didn't like it). That's a lot of pros.

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    • Teen Titans Forever! wrote:
      AronRedfield wrote:
      This game was very disappointing. Uninteresting characters, unfinished story, repetetive chase segments, too much outdoors and Jessica's story went NOWHERE. The only pros of this game are the graphics, atmosphere and great new features.
      It actually has a finished story if you put all the pieces of the puzzle together. The Outlast games all the time have repetetive chase segments. Too much outdoors?! WTF (Too much water IGN). Jessica's story had an ending (you just didn't like it). That's a lot of pros.

      But who knows what happened at the end with Blake and the baby? Murkoff is only mentioned in a document, they never made an appearance in this game.

      Not all the time. In Outlast 1, there were only 6 chasing segments. 

      Outdoors didn't make this game any scarier. It was scary at the beginning but not anymore later on. 

      But what does Jessica's story have to do with Lynn's story in the future?

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    • The ending is still pretty clear IMO. Blake went insane and the baby was never real. Murkoff made everyone in the game go insane as they were test subjest.

      Yeah you're right about Outlast 1. I still don't mind the many chasing segments as they were mostly easy for me (but Marta was a pain)

      To be honest I don't find the Outlast games to be scary. I do view them thrilling as when I seen Chris Walker/Marta/anyone I just ran and hope I went the right way but if I died no problem as I'll just re-start and try again.

      The only thing about Lynn and Jessica is that they were friends in the past and both had feelings for Blake. That's it. Jessica and Lynn's story ultimately had endings.

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    • I have two theories as to what happened in the ending. The first theory is that baby is Jessica reincarnated somehow. The proof of it is the neck wound on Jessica's neck disappearing after collecting all the documents and notes. The second theory makes more sense: In the comics, the Walrider was dispersed thanks to Murkoff's weapon, forcing it to use a colony of ants as its host. The mind controlling towers placed around the village are related to the Morphogenic Engine, the very tool used to create the Walrider in the first game, hence the insanity and the phantom pregnancies. The Walrider could have also used the cultists as potential hosts, since, as Dr. Rudolf Wernicke pointed out, the subject has to be in a close proximity to death and experience overwhelming madness and more than enough horror to not only activate the Morphogenic Engine but become the host. This is something Sullivan Knoth, his followers and the heretics have accomplished by killing their own children and experiencing nightmares made by the radio towers. Knoth, under the influence of Murkoff, began to kill his own children to prevent the Walrider from gaining a host. So, either the Walrider used Lynn's baby as a potential host and her words, "There's nothing there." is her mind succumbing to the same madness, or there really is no baby and the Walrider is now using Blake as its host, taking advantage of his guilt and hallucinations. And as for the baby casting no shadow, it's probably a developer error.

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    • Outlast's story revolves around science fiction, not supernatural. Jessica's appearance at the end is randomized & has no player input. Everything implies that Lynn's baby is a hallucination (which you can clearly tell from preceding conversations that this has already been covered to death), as the character herself notes that "There's nothing there" & as for the possible error on the dev's part; these are people that heavily detailed Val's model to indicate that it's a trans woman, I highly doubt something like that flew over their heads. Everything else lies in speculation in regards to the Walrider as we still don't know what was Murkoff's hoping to achieve with this.

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    • Well, there were those papers found in the first game that mentions the real life CIA experiments like Project Bluebird and Project MKUltra. And given the fact that Sullivan Knoth heard the so-called "Voice of God" on the radio, it could be theorized that Murkoff was developing a sort of mind control experiment. Think about it, what's the best way to control a mind? Perhaps that's what the Morphogenic Engine was in the first place: a Nazi mind control experiment and Murkoff simply used Rudolf Wernicke's experiments to make it stronger. The radio towers surrounding Temple Gate are obviously related to the Morphogenic Engine since in both cases, female subjects ended up developing phantom pregnancies.

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    • I think the only relation between the Engine and the towers is that they both utilize the same brand of technology, thus sharing side effects like fatal phantom pregnancies. Otherwise, the Engine is just a machine that turns humans' cells into nano-factories and the tower mangles people's minds with vivid hallucinations. I don't think the Engine has anything to do with mind control, moreso dream therapy. 

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    • Still, both the Morphogenic Engine and the radio towers both have the same sort of technology to penetrate a person's mind, no matter the age and gender. Only in the case of the towers it's more direct while the engine utilizes lucid dreams. And there was that comment Lynn made in the beginning of the second game about the Jane Doe's body having mercury in her veins. Wernicke mentioned in the exit film that the Morphogenic Engine test subjects back in Nazi Germany had lead tumors.

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